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I think I reach the point where I cannot avoid buffer heads anymore... 2008-10-19 15:05 doctor strangelove was great 2008-10-19 15:05 peter sellers is beyond brilliant 2008-10-19 15:07 that's the guy that played a few characters there? 2008-10-19 15:08 that's him 2008-10-19 15:08 I didn't know when I watch it :D 2008-10-19 15:08 including the illustrious doctor 2008-10-19 15:09 I also liked the texan pilot :P 2008-10-19 15:09 (which he was suppose to also play) 2008-10-19 15:09 slim pickens 2008-10-19 15:10 apparently not acting 2008-10-19 15:10 that's how he really was 2008-10-19 15:10 yeah! :D 2008-10-19 15:10 I read about that 2008-10-19 15:10 he came in boots and with the hat from the first day :P 2008-10-19 15:11 it's amazing how sellers could change his face to play the president 2008-10-19 15:11 didn't recognize him 2008-10-19 15:11 Kubrick biographer John Baxter further explains in the documentary Inside the Making of Dr. Strangelove: 2008-10-19 15:11 As it turns out, Slim Pickens had never left the United States. He had to hurry and get his first passport. He arrived on the set, and somebody said, "Gosh, he's arrived in costume!," not realizing that that's how he always dressed... with the cowboy hat and the fringed jacket and the cowboy boots?and that he wasn't putting on the character?that's the way he talked. 2008-10-19 15:11 (from wikipedia :D) 2008-10-19 15:12 seems to be rated about number 5 movie of all time 2008-10-19 15:12 on lots of lists 2008-10-19 15:13 President Merkin Muffley: Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room. 2008-10-19 15:13 I saw it when it first came out, I guess my dad didn't know it wasn't for kids 2008-10-19 15:13 wow! :D 2008-10-19 15:13 all I remembered from it was the guy sitting on the bomb waving his hat 2008-10-19 15:13 how old were you? 2008-10-19 15:13 8 2008-10-19 15:13 :D 2008-10-19 15:14 actually, my 4 year old could relate to the sitting on the bomb scene 2008-10-19 15:15 she need to know why he wanted to sit on the bomb 2008-10-19 15:15 the part about the bodily fluids was hilarious... 2008-10-19 15:15 answer: because he'd stupid 2008-10-19 15:15 :-) 2008-10-19 15:16 reading out the phone call... serious right up until the last line 2008-10-19 15:17 Director Kubrick tricked Scott into playing the role of Gen. Turgidson far more ridiculously than Scott was comfortable with doing. Kubrick talked Scott into doing "over the top" practice takes, which Kubrick told Scott would never be used, as a way to warm up for the "real" takes. Subsequently, Kubrick used these takes in the final film, causing Scott to swear never to work with Kubrick again. 2008-10-19 15:18 (also from wikipedia) 2008-10-19 15:18 considered scott's breakout role 2008-10-19 15:18 so I suppose it was just a quick swear 2008-10-19 15:19 kubrick gets my vote for greatest director of all time 2008-10-19 15:20 I think the doctor strangelove is the only film I watch from him 2008-10-19 15:20 awesome song for the ending :P 2008-10-19 15:20 there's 2001 2008-10-19 15:20 barry lyndon 2008-10-19 15:21 the shining 2008-10-19 15:21 clockwork orange 2008-10-19 15:21 all must see 2008-10-19 15:21 aaaa 2001 2008-10-19 15:21 he's got at least 5 films in the top 100 2008-10-19 15:21 I have to see that 2008-10-19 15:25 apparently some of the terrain scenes in strangelove were recycled in the light show part of 2001 2008-10-19 15:25 optically/chemically alterered 2008-10-19 15:25 didn't know about that :D 2008-10-19 15:26 64, 68... 2008-10-19 15:26 4 years apart 2008-10-19 15:26 aaa... I watched Eyes Wide Shut :P 2008-10-19 15:27 I need to see it 2008-10-19 15:28 critics thought the pacing was slow... that's a good sign 2008-10-19 15:28 not with the kids around though :P 2008-10-19 15:28 it was slow... 2008-10-19 15:28 that's what they thought about barry lyndon, which is since recognized as one of the great films 2008-10-19 15:28 one of my favorites 2008-10-19 15:29 need to watch that 2008-10-19 15:29 cool... they also have it at the library ;-) 2008-10-19 15:30 checkout out but the next free time is not soon 2008-10-19 15:30 you've got plenty of time ;) 2008-10-19 15:31 "after five or ten years came the realization that 2001 or Barry Lyndon or The Shining was like nothing else before or since" -- Scorsese 2008-10-19 15:31 exactly 2008-10-19 15:31 :D 2008-10-19 15:32 ah, full meta jacket, another kubrick 2008-10-19 15:33 metal even 2008-10-19 15:33 metajacket... sounces like sequel to men in black 2008-10-19 15:34 btw, did you like Red Thin Line? 2008-10-19 15:35 didn't see it 2008-10-19 15:35 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120863/ 2008-10-19 15:35 1998? 2008-10-19 15:35 I like it a lot 2008-10-19 15:36 http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1084146-thin_red_line/ 2008-10-19 15:36 yup 2008-10-19 15:36 it's from '98 2008-10-19 15:36 I'll check it out 2008-10-19 15:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm6ZgOBlzII 2008-10-19 15:37 funny how kubrick seems to have intentionally made one of each of the major film genre's, almost 2008-10-19 15:37 no western 2008-10-19 15:37 I'm a sucker for voiceovers ;-) 2008-10-19 15:40 just watched the trailer... 2008-10-19 15:40 I had to watch it again 2008-10-19 15:40 thin red line? 2008-10-19 15:41 yup 2008-10-19 15:41 ok, it's on my list 2008-10-19 15:41 let me know what do you think after you watch it :D 2008-10-19 15:44 -!- paola(~paola@ppp-139-17.20-151.libero.it) has left #tux3 2008-10-19 15:46 #include "itree_common.c" :D 2008-10-19 15:46 in itree_v1.c from minix 2008-10-19 15:47 :) 2008-10-19 15:47 so there's some precedent... from linus maby even 2008-10-19 15:48 source includes are useful and obvious technique, it's strange how most c coders consider it somehow dirty 2008-10-19 15:48 * Copyright (C) 1991, 1992 Linus Torvalds 2008-10-19 15:48 * 2008-10-19 15:48 * Copyright (C) 1996 Gertjan van Wingerde (gertjan@cs.vu.nl) 2008-10-19 15:48 * Minix V2 fs support. 2008-10-19 15:49 in my case I didn't expect to find it in the middle of the itree_v1.c :D 2008-10-19 15:49 I was tracking a static function in itree_common.c 2008-10-19 15:49 and it was not used in itree_common.c ;-) 2008-10-19 15:51 shapor, brilliant merge 2008-10-19 15:52 post your merge helper scripts on the list? 2008-10-19 16:06 trying to think of all the things that need to be done for the kernel port now 2008-10-19 16:07 so far the testing was done only using fuse? 2008-10-19 16:07 and that very light 2008-10-19 16:07 so light that I think it's been broken for a couple weeks 2008-10-19 16:07 since the extents merge 2008-10-19 16:07 so the more serious one was using userland programs? 2008-10-19 16:08 there hasn't been serious testing 2008-10-19 16:08 ack :D 2008-10-19 16:09 we're getting closer though 2008-10-19 16:10 as soon as I get over this atomic commit hump, and produce some code for it then that finishes the big hacking projects in user space for the time being 2008-10-19 16:10 well, except for making fuse actually work well 2008-10-19 16:10 coding the atomic commit will hopefully start tomorrow 2008-10-19 16:12 38 more calls... I'm slow... 2008-10-19 16:13 now how are we going to do the source code management for the kernel port 2008-10-19 16:13 hg? 2008-10-19 16:14 I'm thinking, we have a script that copies in the files from the userspace directory, maybe makes some slight changes to them, then applies a patch to produce the kernel code 2008-10-19 16:14 and we hack on the kernel code in-tree, with a git tree cloned from mainline 2008-10-19 16:15 so to update the above patch, we run the import script then do git-diff 2008-10-19 16:15 why not make the userland compatible with the kernel code? :P 2008-10-19 16:15 so that way we keep the user space and kernel code from diverging a lot for the time being 2008-10-19 16:15 (like I'm doing now ;-)) 2008-10-19 16:15 we will make it mostly compatible 2008-10-19 16:15 but there are obvious places where it can't be 2008-10-19 16:15 like be don't need buffer.c or diskio.c at all 2008-10-19 16:16 s/be/we/ 2008-10-19 16:16 bok... I'll make the code run on my vfs then :P 2008-10-19 16:16 the kernel code I mean 2008-10-19 16:16 good luck 2008-10-19 16:16 why not just hack on the real kernel? 2008-10-19 16:17 I like the userland 2008-10-19 16:17 I'll set up a uml tarball 2008-10-19 16:17 but I also like to keep the code untouched 2008-10-19 16:17 you can work completely in userland 2008-10-19 16:17 just not on macos 2008-10-19 16:17 well... I'm am working on macos ;) 2008-10-19 16:17 :D 2008-10-19 16:17 all good things come to an end ;) 2008-10-19 16:17 ACTION isn't sure whether that's actually true 2008-10-19 16:18 hmm... the market going up did :P 2008-10-19 16:18 it I'm able to run ext2 I should be able to run tux3, right? 2008-10-19 16:19 it = if 2008-10-19 16:21 possibly 2008-10-19 16:21 you need to emulate the bio interface 2008-10-19 16:21 should not be that hard 2008-10-19 16:21 I'll got to that in ext2 I guess... 2008-10-19 16:21 minix doesn't use it 2008-10-19 16:21 not really 2008-10-19 16:22 ext2 doesn't use bios directly 2008-10-19 16:22 last time I checked 2008-10-19 16:22 ext3? :D 2008-10-19 16:22 flips: not script, just some droppings in my .bash_history 2008-10-19 16:22 probably script worthy though 2008-10-19 16:22 shapor. scrape .bash_history ? 2008-10-19 16:22 yeah 2008-10-19 16:23 before it rides off into the sunset 2008-10-19 16:23 speaking of which 2008-10-19 16:23 copied it so it wouldn't get rotated out 2008-10-19 16:23 getting close to sk8 thirty 2008-10-19 16:23 i'm kinda beat just rode 120 miles 2008-10-19 16:23 next time we have clouds I'll bring the camera down to the beach again 2008-10-19 16:23 mostly on the edge of my tires ;) 2008-10-19 16:23 gotta clean the sensor 2008-10-19 16:23 heh 2008-10-19 16:24 gotta make sure you don't just wear the middles 2008-10-19 16:25 whoa, it's cool out, have to wear an extra layer 2008-10-19 16:25 winter is setting in in socal 2008-10-19 16:26 71F in my lab right now :( 2008-10-19 16:30 -!- FelipeS(~Felipe@r77h15.res.gatech.edu) has joined #tux3 2008-10-19 16:34 saw mongol the russian movie last night 2008-10-19 16:34 way excellent 2008-10-19 16:35 blows away any hollywood release in the last couple years imho 2008-10-19 16:35 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416044/ ? 2008-10-19 16:37 yes 2008-10-19 16:37 underrated on english speaking sites I think 2008-10-19 16:38 http://www.apple.com/trailers/picturehouse/mongol/ 2008-10-19 16:38 looks cool :D 2008-10-19 16:39 apparently mongolians didn't like it and russians loved it 2008-10-19 16:40 btw, have you watched: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1032846/ ? 2008-10-19 16:41 no, never heard of it 2008-10-19 16:42 it's dark... 2008-10-19 16:42 looks like a must see 2008-10-19 16:42 one of the best Romanian movie 2008-10-19 16:43 hmm, genghis kahn was played by a japanese 2008-10-19 16:43 looks pretty mongolian, that has something to be with being conquered perhaps 2008-10-19 16:44 probably also has something to do with mongolians hating it 2008-10-19 16:44 :-) 2008-10-19 16:48 the military logic is to history reality as hollywood westerns are to actual cow pies 2008-10-19 17:03 rasvanm, could you email me the original of http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2951108022_9cc58e9464_b.jpg ? 2008-10-19 17:03 the psd file? 2008-10-19 17:04 whatever it is 2008-10-19 17:04 I wonder if gimp can read that 2008-10-19 17:04 apparently yes 2008-10-19 17:05 it might, I only used some simple filters 2008-10-19 17:08 the psd is ~90MB and is here: http://cs.jhu.edu.edu/~razvanm/carousel.psd 2008-10-19 17:08 the full size jpg is here http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2951108022_fd19ba9383_o.jpg 2008-10-19 17:09 I should have spend some time to fix the carousel fringes... 2008-10-19 17:09 razvanm, later tonight ;) 2008-10-19 17:10 :D 2008-10-19 17:10 I like the fringes 2008-10-19 17:10 are you going to take more? 2008-10-19 17:10 it's 8 ;-) 2008-10-19 17:10 gives it that misaligned lithograph look 2008-10-19 17:11 some (usually dark) nice pictures http://www.dianevarner.com/ 2008-10-19 17:11 90 mb is gross 2008-10-19 17:11 I wonder how above achieves that, xml? 2008-10-19 17:11 let me check 2008-10-19 17:12 -rw-r--r-- 1 razvanm users 54747319 Oct 18 00:27 carousel.psd.gz 2008-10-19 17:12 there is some xml inside in some parts 2008-10-19 17:13 http://cs.jhu.edu.edu/~razvanm/carousel.psd.gz 2008-10-19 17:14 90 mb from 7 MB raw is unconscionable 2008-10-19 17:14 why I don't like proprietary/evil 2008-10-19 17:14 even when shiny 2008-10-19 17:15 it's not rgb... I converted to lab colors :P 2008-10-19 17:15 and I also make a layer using one the channels 2008-10-19 17:15 and I also used some gradient on a mask or two 2008-10-19 17:15 and I think that is stored as bitmap :P 2008-10-19 17:16 isn't the _o what you need? 2008-10-19 17:18 _o ? 2008-10-19 17:19 RazvanM: the full size jpg is here http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2951108022_fd19ba9383_o.jpg 2008-10-19 17:19 http://cs.jhu.edu.edu/~razvanm/carousel.psd.gz gives 404 to wget and top level url to firefox 2008-10-19 17:19 looks like a censor job ;) 2008-10-19 17:20 bandwidth police maybe 2008-10-19 17:20 sorry.. I put two .edu-s :D 2008-10-19 17:21 http://cs.jhu.edu/~razvanm/carousel.psd.gz 2008-10-19 17:21 heh 2008-10-19 17:22 now it works, right? 2008-10-19 17:35 18 more calls... 2008-10-19 17:57 14 more... 2008-10-19 18:06 9 more... 2008-10-19 18:13 5 more... 2008-10-19 18:23 1 more... 2008-10-19 18:33 0 :P 2008-10-19 18:34 Bus error ;-) 2008-10-19 18:57 time to go home 2008-10-19 20:16 razvanm went home on the bus 2008-10-19 20:33 -!- RazvanM(~RazvanM@pool-151-196-118-156.balt.east.verizon.net) has joined #tux3 2008-10-19 21:10 -!- mint(~mint@71-90-82-221.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com) has joined #tux3 2008-10-19 21:10 sup 2008-10-19 21:10 going on bitches 2008-10-19 21:12 -!- tim_dimm(~timothyhu@cpe-76-90-98-247.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #tux3 2008-10-19 21:42 flips: reading postings from tso 2008-10-19 21:42 regarding btrfs, it's also /.-ed 2008-10-19 22:00 flips: I wouldn't be discouraged 2008-10-19 22:00 just keep at it 2008-10-19 22:58 -!- tim_dimm(~timothyhu@cpe-76-90-98-247.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #tux3 2008-10-19 23:00 need a wiki editor 2008-10-19 23:00 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versioning_file_system 2008-10-19 23:32 guess tim didn't notice the [edit] link 2008-10-19 23:32 hey flips 2008-10-19 23:32 i think tim_dimm wanted someone to edit that... 2008-10-19 23:32 anyway, we don't get to go in there until it actually versions imho 2008-10-19 23:32 as in a person 2008-10-19 23:32 :) 2008-10-19 23:33 ah, we should bring our own more up to date 2008-10-19 23:33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux3 2008-10-19 23:33 who in here is Mr. Phillips? 2008-10-19 23:33 wild guess? 2008-10-19 23:34 flips: why are we not using rbtree in our fs? 2008-10-19 23:34 you! 2008-10-19 23:34 ah 2008-10-19 23:34 yeah right click confirmed that 2008-10-19 23:37 flips, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? 2008-10-19 23:38 ha I went to google-stalk you 2008-10-19 23:38 FelipeS: i had no luck doing that :) 2008-10-19 23:38 I typed daniel phillips and google's "autocomplete" feature associated you with linux 2008-10-19 23:39 well I just found out he has a degreen in music 2008-10-19 23:40 from the Univ of British Columbia 2008-10-19 23:40 which he obtained in 1975 2008-10-19 23:40 lets say 1975 - 20 2008-10-19 23:40 1955 ? 2008-10-19 23:42 :D 2008-10-19 23:42 exactly 2008-10-19 23:42 good sneaky work, we need you :) 2008-10-19 23:43 was that really you? 2008-10-19 23:43 nah we all just need Google 2008-10-19 23:45 flips: rbtree? 2008-10-19 23:46 rbtree? 2008-10-19 23:46 htree maybe 2008-10-19 23:46 hmm 2008-10-19 23:46 not sure what you're talking about 2008-10-19 23:46 ACTION really doesnt knw a htree :( 2008-10-19 23:46 hmm 2008-10-19 23:46 i see that u are using a btree in tux3 2008-10-19 23:47 several 2008-10-19 23:47 yeah... 2008-10-19 23:47 so is a htree or rbtree better than a plain btree? 2008-10-19 23:49 rbtree is not a btree 2008-10-19 23:49 ! 2008-10-19 23:49 and a plain btree is not great for directory indexing 2008-10-19 23:50 rbtree is not? 2008-10-19 23:50 it has an extra color bit, everything else i guess makes it a btree? 2008-10-19 23:51 an rb tree is a type of binary tree 2008-10-19 23:51 a btree is not a binary tree, it is an nary tree 2008-10-19 23:51 oh :) 2008-10-19 23:52 the "b" in btree most likely stands for "balanced", but nobody knows for sure 2008-10-19 23:52 hmm.. thats something i learnt now.. 2008-10-19 23:52 ACTION looking for htree