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2008-09-28 03:05 <bobby> hey guys
2008-09-28 03:12 <bobby> anyone awake?
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2008-09-28 12:14 <pranith> hey guys
2008-09-28 12:15 <pranith> flipsout: was thinking about the unit testing you wanted for dwalk_pack
2008-09-28 12:15 <pranith> i am not sure about how you go about doing that.. was reading the dleaf.c code today. 
2008-09-28 12:16 <pranith> u mentioned some unit test already present
2008-09-28 12:16 <pranith> can u point out where that is?
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2008-09-28 16:02 <orgthingy> hi
2008-09-28 16:03 <orgthingy> so, wait wait, why is this Tux3 better than ext3 ?
2008-09-28 16:03 <flipsout> orgthing, did you read the initial post?
2008-09-28 16:03 <flipsout> orgthingy
2008-09-28 16:03 <orgthingy> initial post?
2008-09-28 16:04 <flipsout> "Tux3, a versioning filesystem"
2008-09-28 16:04 <orgthingy> tux3.org seems empty :P
2008-09-28 16:04 <flipsout> did you follow the links there?
2008-09-28 16:04 <orgthingy> i dont want to sound like an idiot, but what exactly is "versioning" filesystem ?
2008-09-28 16:05 <flipsout> another word for snapshots
2008-09-28 16:06 <orgthingy> flips : and, how is tux2 opensource if it was never released?
2008-09-28 16:07 <orgthingy> flips : and, what do you think is better than ext3 (discarding tux2 and tux3) in your opinion ?
2008-09-28 16:07 <flips> the code is linked on the site and is under gpl v3
2008-09-28 16:08 <flips> orgthingy, care to say something about yourself and where you are coming from?
2008-09-28 16:08 <orgthingy> flips : well, what shall i say... Im just an opensource fan and my goal is to be UNIX genius? :P
2008-09-28 16:08 <orgthingy> UNIX/Linux to be exact xD
2008-09-28 16:09 <flips> worked on which projects?
2008-09-28 16:09 <orgthingy> yes, mostly bug and features reports though
2008-09-28 16:09 <orgthingy> used to do stuff with python iirc
2008-09-28 16:09 <flips> ext3 does not have versioning of any form, or extents
2008-09-28 16:09 <orgthingy> flips : Id be happy to help with tux3, but not sure how this whole thing works
2008-09-28 16:10 <orgthingy> but ill study it and understand it
2008-09-28 16:10 <flips> it is also slow at deleting
2008-09-28 16:10 <orgthingy> yes, slow at deleting.. cant deny that :P
2008-09-28 16:10 <flips> it is also limited to files and volumes of a few TB
2008-09-28 16:11 <flips> ext4 is what you should be asking about
2008-09-28 16:11 <flips> which also has no snapshots
2008-09-28 16:12 <orgthingy> few TB?
2008-09-28 16:12 <orgthingy> isnt that quite.. a lot :P
2008-09-28 16:12 <flips> not these days, a TB disk costs a little over $100
2008-09-28 16:14 <orgthingy> :|
2008-09-28 16:14 <orgthingy> man, they lied to me then!
2008-09-28 16:14 <orgthingy> i bought 250GB external HD for $90 !! 
2008-09-28 16:15 <orgthingy> and i was like "oh, quite fair price" !
2008-09-28 16:15 <flips> yes, you got ripped off
2008-09-28 16:15 <orgthingy> :(
2008-09-28 16:15 <orgthingy> all prices were like that in different shops
2008-09-28 16:15 <orgthingy> :'(
2008-09-28 16:16 <orgthingy> anyway, flips, may you tell me about you?
2008-09-28 16:16 <flips> google me?
2008-09-28 16:18 <orgthingy> lol, ok
2008-09-28 16:18 <orgthingy> 
ACTION googles "flips"

2008-09-28 16:18 <orgthingy> flips : nothing that seems to be u 
2008-09-28 16:19 <orgthingy> 
ACTION googles himself

2008-09-28 16:19 <orgthingy> 
ACTION saw something embarrassing that happened 6 years ago

2008-09-28 16:19 <orgthingy> me hides xD
2008-09-28 16:19 <orgthingy>  /me *
2008-09-28 16:20 <flips> try /whois flips
2008-09-28 16:20 <flips> maybe consider using your real name on irc
2008-09-28 16:21 <flips> I glaube dass du kanst Deutsch
2008-09-28 16:21 <orgthingy> deutsch?
2008-09-28 16:21 <orgthingy> german?
2008-09-28 16:22 <orgthingy> omg
2008-09-28 16:22 <orgthingy>  Daniel Phillips :|
2008-09-28 16:22 <orgthingy> flips : nice to meet you
2008-09-28 16:23 <flips> nice to meet you
2008-09-28 16:23 <orgthingy> flips : Im gonna learn german soon, but online :(
2008-09-28 16:23 <orgthingy> no classes over here
2008-09-28 16:23 <orgthingy> i mean, i gotta learn in LiveMocha
2008-09-28 16:23 <flips> doesn't matter, I just thought you were german because you are connected to a server in darmstadt
2008-09-28 16:23 <orgthingy> flips : is there ANY GOOD WAY that I can learn about filesystems? tux3 sounds like a nice project 
2008-09-28 16:24 <flips> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystems <- start here
2008-09-28 16:24 <orgthingy> ah, wikipedia... :P
2008-09-28 16:25 <flips> http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26.5/fs/open.c#L1106 <- continue here
2008-09-28 16:26 <orgthingy> flips : thanks sir, but a usual feature i tell devoloper is: How about making a program for Windows and probably OS X that makes it possible to read your filesystem, which is tux3 is this situation"?
2008-09-28 16:27 <flips> exercise left for the interested reader
2008-09-28 16:27 <orgthingy> because, FAT32 is bad, and seems to be only way, after NTFS, to be read by all Oses.. and since NTFS is proprietary, and not *that good*, i suggest making these kind of readers
2008-09-28 16:39 <orgthingy> flips : may I ask what FileSystem you are using right now?
2008-09-28 16:40 <flips> ext3
2008-09-28 16:40 <orgthingy> I see
2008-09-28 16:42 <orgthingy> flips : it says in wikipedia that stuff get mounted at boot time.. but what about, like, umm.. we inserted a CD after we booted?
2008-09-28 16:42 <orgthingy> how can it be automatically mounted?
2008-09-28 16:44 <flips> automount?
2008-09-28 16:44 <orgthingy> flips, yes
2008-09-28 16:44 <orgthingy> how exactly does automount work?
2008-09-28 16:45 <flips> beyond the scope of this channel, http://www.google.com/search?q=automount
2008-09-28 16:47 <orgthingy> ah, Google again xD
2008-09-28 17:20 <flips> finally, dwalk_next and dwalk_back seem to kind of make sense
2008-09-28 17:20 <flips> could be near the end of pain for extent writing
2008-09-28 17:21 <flips> checkin coming a little after sk8 oclock
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2008-09-28 20:02 <flips> tim_dimm, ping
2008-09-28 20:09 <bh> folks
2008-09-28 20:11 <tim_dimm> flips: give me a few
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2008-09-28 22:45 <pranith> hey guys
2008-09-28 22:45 <pranith> flips: you got some time?
2008-09-28 22:45 <pranith> flips: need u to tell me about unit tests for tux3
2008-09-28 22:45 <pranith> ..
2008-09-28 22:45 <flips> hi
2008-09-28 22:46 <pranith> hello
2008-09-28 22:46 <flips> parnith, for example to run the dleaf unit test: make dleaf && make dleaftest
2008-09-28 22:46 <pranith> ok, where are the tests written? dleaftest.c?
2008-09-28 22:47 <flips> dleaf test is written in dleaf.c
2008-09-28 22:47 <flips> it's a main routine that is only compiled if you're compiling just dleaf by itself
2008-09-28 22:47 <flips> the other unit tests are similar
2008-09-28 23:14 <pranith> ok..
2008-09-28 23:14 <pranith> going through them
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2008-09-28 23:36 <pranith> hmm
2008-09-28 23:48 <flips> not clear what the unit tests are testing?
2008-09-28 23:56 <bh> btw, I'm coming through LA to SF on Friday
2008-09-28 23:56 <flips> I'll be around